A Nice Place to Die, but You Wouldn’t Want to Live There

What would you guess are the most dangerous and violent cities in the world? Tokyo, Zurich, or Vienna? No you imbeciles, those aren’t even close.

Perhaps you’ve already seen statistics compiled elsewhere. Though if you have not, how would you formulate a guess? Most reasonable men would eschew the task as impossible. People are just people, and quite indistinguishable from place to place. One social construct is very like another when you’re gasping through a chest wound brother.

So you can imagine the delighted surprise at my own seeming clairvoyance. I actually came close in guessing; maybe you can too. Though if so it would be only by sheerest chance, as you have nothing at your disposal in which to premise the speculation. According to one website, these are the most dangerous cities in the world.

1 San Pedro Sula, Honduras
2 Caracas, Venezuela
3 Acapulco, Mexico
4 Cali, Colombia
5 Maceió, Brazil
6 Capital District, Honduras
7 Fortaleza, Brazil
8 Guatemala City, Guatemala
9 João Pessoa, Brazil
10 Barquisimeto, Venezuela
11 Palmira, Colombia
12 Natal, Brazil
13 Salvador, Brazil
14 Vitoria, Brazil
15 Sao Luis, Brazil
16 Culiacán, Mexico
17 Ciudad Guayana, Venezuela
18 Torreón, Mexico
19 Kingston, Jamaica
20 Cape Town, South Africa
21 Chihuahua City, Mexico
22 Victoria, Mexico
23 Belém, Brazil
24 Detroit, USA [Top 25!]
25 Campina Grande, Brazil
26 New Orleans, USA
27 San Salvador, El Salvador
28 Goiânia, Brazil
29 Cuiabá, Brazil
30 Nuevo Laredo, Mexico
31 Manaus, Brazil
32 Santa Marta, Colombia
33 Cúcuta, Colombia
34 Pereira, Colombia
35 Medellin, Colombia
36 Baltimore, USA
37 Ciuadad Juárez, Mexico
38 San Juan, Puerto Rico
39 Recife, Brazil
40 Macapá, Brazil
41 Nelson Mandela Bay, South Africa
42 Maracaibo, Venezuela
43 Cuernavaca, Mexico
44 Belo Horizonte, Brazil
45 St Louis, USA
46 Aracaju, Brazil
47 Tijuana, Mexico
48 Durban, South Africa
49 Port-au-Prince, Haiti
50 Valencia, Venezuela

12 November 2014: Latin America’s cities are the most dangerous in the world. Drug trafficking, gang wars, political instability, corruption, and poverty combined are the main causes of the continent’s extreme urban violence. Residents of cities in Brazil, Mexico and Colombia are particularly at risk of being caught up in battles between warring gangs. For the third year running, San Pedro Sula, a city of some 720,000 people in northern Honduras is thought to be the most dangerous city in the world with 187 murders per 100,000 inhabitants per annum (187 HTIs*). With 134 HTIs, Venezuela’s capital Caracas is the second most murderous city in the global ranking, with Acapulco in third place. Cape Town, Detroit and New Orleans are the cities with the highest murder rates outside Latin America.

Frankly I’m skeptical of any listing that would deny The Mog its well-earned status. Though I wonder if the actuarial data coming out of Somalia, and Africa in general, is of the highest integrity. It just may be that “too many to bother counting” is depressing the otherwise formidable “HTIs” in that continent. But enough of that unfounded cynicism.

Have you ever thought to yourself: I’m tired and frightened of living with the threat of violence in certain big cities of America. I’d like to move somewhere comparatively safe…like Port-Au-Price, Haiti. You are of surprisingly sound mind, if so.

And applause for Brazil’s impressive showing on this list. It’s fortunate American children will never need fear living in a country like that. Though I do worry about cities appearing above in Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. I worry because we are absorbing huge quantities of their human excess. And am thus concerned about the capacity of our magical border to transform such large numbers of them into fecund, violent, drunken, social parasites who will reliably vote democrat. Though it all seems to be going swimmingly so far.

Which leaves the only remaining complaint for the people of Oakland, Newark, and Birmingham. You lost to Valencia?

17 thoughts on “A Nice Place to Die, but You Wouldn’t Want to Live There

  1. My hometown coming in at 36! No surprises there…I agree there seems to quite a lack of African representation…I mean no shows by Mogadishu, Lagos, Luanda, Lusaka, or Harare, just to name a few off the top of my head. Something must be wrong,Although can’t imagine anyone purposely manipulating the numbers so as not to appear racist. Unfortunately too many of our fellow citizens have yet to realize that the reason that the 3rd world is the 3rd world is due to the people who live there; and by importing 10’s of millions of them to North America they are not suddenly going to undergo cultural alchemy to become hard working, God fearing, law abiding citizens…

  2. A lot of overlap with this list. Though I think we can in good conscience add some of Tsnamm’s entries along with Baghdad, Kabul, Tripoli, Benghazi, Damascus, (and anywhere else America brings freedom and democracy) and Karachi.

    Regarding the last, I had a friend who actually spent a few days in that fetid incubator of Englishmen. He said on the first day walking out into the city, his party saw a corpse recently expired on the side of a street. To his astonishment, 24 hours later he again passed the unmolested body with hundreds of potential UK prime ministers walking past as indifferent as if it were a soda can. He said in the heat and humidity, the smell had begun to blossom into something quite lush.

    I do hope similar aromas won’t disturb the sidewalk cafe ambience for liberals in America 2.0.

    • Isn’t it that simple? I don’t want my country to become like that country [Mexico, Pakistan, what have you]. A country is made up of people. Ergo, I don’t want those people in my country.

      Ran across an interesting comment the other day to the effect that we have to get over trying to evaluate policy on individual rather than group criteria. For instance: I know and work with many people who belong to [group x]. I like and even respect some of them. So, I would naturally want to extend my high regard for the people I know and like to the group as a whole. And doing so would be a mistake.

      To evaluate the group as a whole, one must evaluate group-level data. At that level, it is clear that adding significant numbers of people from [group x] to Western societies would not benefit those societies.

      Or, consider it this way: The graph of a group is the vector sum of all its members.

      • …group x to western societies would not benefit those societies.

        You’re right, though what benefits Western societies is wholly off-the-table as an acceptable avenue of inquiry (The Economy notwithstanding). We exist strictly as conduits for the enrichment of others. The lifespan of either this doctrine or its host society will be brief.

  3. Good call! I totally missed out on all the Mideast & SW Asia paradises, but since we are on the subject, lets throw a few more contenders into the fray…certainly Chicago, Philly, Memphis, Gary Ind., along with the others you mentioned…interestingly enough, no European cities were mentioned…I expect places like Malmo, Paris, Rome or Manchester ought to be climbing up the standings, especially with their vibrant, increased, wonderful diversity…

  4. I see my former home town of Cape Town, South Africa made number 20, beating out all other South African cities, including Johannesburg, which didn’t even make the list. Also beating any and all American cities.

    Some residents of both Johannesburg and Cape Town may be surprised at that. Cape Town is actually quite pleasant compared to other SA cities. This is because the insane rate of murders is largely confined to the Coloured (mixed-race) gangs in the townships of the Cape Flats.

    • Analog I’ve never been there, though by reputation alone that was my first thought as well: Capetown worse than Jo-burg? Though the list is premised on only one metric. And that obviously subject to the vagaries of accurate tabulation.

      Anytime you’d like a guest slot to expand on your thoughts and experiences from SA, let me know. I maintain a low ambient nausea for the West’s betrayal of the Boers, and view their plight as ultimately ours to share.

      • Thanks, that’s white of you. However, I left South Africa permanently earlier this year, and for several years prior have not followed the news there. Not my country any more.

        I think you are correct in your prognosis. I remarked just last week to a SA immigrant to America that America forced us to submit to a kaffir government, then died of its own medicine. This gives me no pleasure. I have a child and grandchildren in the USA, and of course America is crucial to White survival worldwide, so I really hope you can turn this around.

        South Africa is not blameless, of course. I first knew SA was over when it threw Rhodesia to the wolves. Somewhere White men have to stand together.

        Thanks again for the offer of a soapbox, but there are many more astute observers already writing on the web. I’ll throw in my two cents’ worth from time to time on the comments, but for now, I’ll yield the soapbox to this Warning to the United States from South Africa by Gemma Meyer, first published in 2002. I hope it’s still not too late, though recent developments are not encouraging.

  5. I’ve been to all the Venezuelan cities mentioned and am surprised that Valencia ranked so low in comparison to the others. New Orleans has charm. Valencia has none save one decent hotel with its own restaurant, thankfully, so no need to venture out. However, Valencia does have jobs in manufacturing and at the port, which is something, and even a tiny airport. Prostitution is also booming. Perhaps its low tourist population is responsible for its lesser danger overall. The manufacturing workforce is typically men rooming together in order to save money to send to the wife and kids back home. The criminals would be those preying on them.

  6. I used to live in Cape Town too and as bad as the crime was there, the locals used to insist that Johannesburg was a million times scarier. Everybody’s got at least one ‘I wuz mugged/robbed/shot/stabbed/carjacked/raped in Joburg’ story.

    It’s also interesting that ‘Nelson Mandela Bay’ (Port Elizabeth) made the list. Cape Town and PE have the highest percentage of Coloureds (and the concomitant lowest percentage of Blacks) among the big cities in SA. The Coloureds are alleged to have an average IQ of 85 compared to the Bantus 70, so it seems kind of odd that they would have a higher crime rate.

    The two big slums on the Cape Flats are Mitchells Plain (Coloureds) and Khayelitsha (Blacks). They’re both terrible hellholes of course, but the latter definitely has a worse reputation. I used to live in a suburb (Rugby) that was at least half-Coloured, but I never had any problems.

    The Coloureds are actually a very diverse population, varying from almost white to nearly black, with some looking (dot) Indian and others vaguely Chinese. A lot of them clearly have Bushman/Hottentot–as opposed to Bantu–ancestry; there is even a very Bushman-like subgroup known as ‘Bergies’ (mountain dwellers), basically an urban hobo caste. These Bergies are extremely docile, at least toward White people. I used to walk through packs of them while carrying beer or groceries and they were too timid to even make eye contact with me, much less ask for money, much less rob and kill me.

    Almost all Coloureds speak Afrikaans as their first language (they all speak English too), but a very rough version of it. You could call it Ebonikaans. Sometimes they refer to themselves as Brown Afrikaners. I think most of them are Christians, mainly Dutch Reformed, but a lot of them are Muslims, particularly the more Asiatic-looking ones. There was a Muslim group known as People Against Gangsterism And Drugs (PAGAD) that used to regularly necklace drug dealers in the townships. Crime control!

    I agree with AnalogMan that Cape Town is definitely more pleasant than other cities in SA. Demographics aside, it might be the most beautiful city in the world, no exaggeration. In my experience the Coloureds are definitely more civilized than the Blacks, sort of a civilizational halfway house between Europeans and Bantus.

    The Xhosas (the main Bantu tribe in the Western Cape), like the Coloureds and unlike other Bantus in SA, have a lot of Bushman/Hottentot blood coursing through their veins. They have somewhat similar squishy, wrinkly facial features, lighter skin and smaller frames like the Bushmen, and their language is full of clicks. They were also the first Bantus to come into contact with Europeans in SA, and have generally dominated (in a political sense) the other Black groups ever since. The ANC, or at least the pre-Jacob Zuma ANC, were widely known as the Xhosa Nostra, such was their domination.

    So it seems pretty strange that Cape Town and Port Elizabeth, both populated by relatively civilized Coloureds and the (arguably) most advanced Bantu group, would have higher crime rates than Joburg, Pretoria or Durban, with their more primitive Blacks (Zulus, Sothos, Pedis, etc.) I think it is probably due to the extreme gangster culture that exists among a large segment of Coloured ‘yoots’, who make the Bloods and Crips look like rival Glee Clubs. Why this level of gangsterism exists among the Coloureds but not the Blacks is probably due to the latter’s inherent dimwittedness and uncooperative nature. They’re too stupid and hateful to even form a proper street gang🙂

    • Agree with pretty much all you say, and nominate you for the SA soapbox. Should just add that in South Africa, the Coloureds are mixed-race, but there are two distinct groups. The Cape Coloureds are mainly descended from slaves imported from Malaya (hence the moslem component) mixed with the indigenous Hottentot (Khoi-San) and Whites. “Other Coloureds” are mainly found up-country and are plain black/white mixture.

      Back when I lived in Jo’burg, Port Elizabeth was my favourite city. Friendliest city in SA. Such a pity to see it renamed, and even the bay it’s situated on, renamed from Algoa Bay, for the Portuguese explorer who discovered it. As that article I linked said, ” When the ‘majority’ took over in South Africa the first targets were our national symbols.”

      Watch out America. One of these days, your own national capital could be renamed “Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King Jr City”. You know what’s worst? A lot of White people would approve.

  7. Re Pakistan: If people can’t be trusted to pick up the dead off the street, their murder statistics can’t be trusted either. I’d imagine many potential tourist destinations cook the books.

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