And it Won’t be the Last

National Cathedral to host first Muslim prayer.

The Washington National Cathedral is hosting a Muslim prayer service for the first time on Friday. Planners say they hope Friday’s service at the historic cathedral will foster more understanding and acceptance between Christians and Muslims around the world.

The prominent Episcopal cathedral often hosts national events, such as presidential funerals, and has hosted Muslims at various interfaith services in the past. But planners say this is the first time the cathedral has invited Muslims to lead their own prayers there, which they call a “powerful symbolic gesture.”

Planners say the prayer service developed after the cathedral’s liturgical director met South African Ambassador Ebrahim Rasool while planning the national memorial service for Nelson Mandela.

In a statement, Rasool says, “This is a dramatic moment in the world and in Muslim-Christian relations.”

Do you know what would have been an even more dramatic moment in the world of Muslim-Christian relations? If a contingent of bishops, or perhaps Baptist preachers, were invited to the Masjid al-Haram to hold a Christian service in that facility. Of course that would require surmounting a few inconsequential hurdles:

1) Christians aren’t allowed to set foot in the city of Mecca;
2) Christians can not worship openly in the country;
3) Bibles are prohibited (perhaps clergy can speak from memory); and
4) Any Muslims moved by the service to religious conversion face the death penalty for apostasy.

So somewhat similar to the environment muslims face in America.

There is probably no need to remind Christian readers here of how badly their leaders have betrayed them. Or how equally unrequited goes their congenial cheek-turning doctrine.

Reciprocity. In practically all aspects of the terminal West, we neither demand nor receive it even in slivers. Let muslims enter the National Cathedral following a Christian conversion ceremony at the door. Those balking may pick up their Korans at the airport upon departure. This isn’t the Dar-al-Islam. We thought Martel made that clear.

All around us the hypocrisy is so thick it could set bricks. And all pretend not to notice. One day that’s going to suddenly stop.

17 thoughts on “And it Won’t be the Last

    • This woman did not turn her cheek. She stood up for what is right, out of a righteous anger, and the Holy Spirit working through her. (Even though I do not agree with Martin Luther, she said Jesus Christ is Lord).
      It brings tears of joy to my eyes, that she stood up against what everyone else wanted, for her country, her Faith, in the name of Christ. It is courage.

      To understand fully, the doctrine of turn the other cheek, I think context is everything. Many heretics take this one verse, and “abuse it”, and allow greater evil to continue under ground of this one verse.This is not what being Christian about. Being a Christian, my opinion, is about Love. Just as when Christ, Himself drove out the moneychangers of the temple, He did not go about this in gentle way, but He did it in Love. (As He is Love).

      But yes, it is hypocrisy. It is angering. I think everyone should be welcome in to Church but NOT when they are blaspheming and worshiping other than Christ. (Which Islam says Christ was just a prophet – blasphemy).

      And I agree, certain “Christian leaders” have disappointed. But they are flesh, they are fallible, they do not represent our Lord.😦 .

      • Muslims honor Christ as a prophet, second only to Mohammed, they expect him to judge the world at the End of Days. They also honor the Virgin Mary. However, Jews consider Our Lord to be a heretic and an apostate and often refer to Our Lady as a whore.

        Both Jews and Muslims should be excluded from participating in Christian worship services whether it be a Liturgy or merely a prayer service. J P II publicly kissed a Koran, rather than being declared a heretic the papists canonize him. The Episcopalians are merely one step ahead of the Romans. Syncretism is the new heresy of the day……….St. Peter’s would make a lovely mosque.

      • I heared Muslims say that on the day of Judgement, Christ Himself will return and “burn” the cross. Which is blasphemy, it makes me upset. To say He is only a prophet in blasphemy, also.

        I had a call last Easter from my sister that in the town they were holding up signs saying the “Truth about Jesus”, and giving booklet out to passers bys about Jesus was really just a prophet.

        It is enraging, when you consider that it was the weekend of Holy Easter, the Saturday the day before. It is like us going to a Muslim country, and holding signs blaspheming their faith, on their day of Eid. We would be probably be hung.

  1. “Do you know what would have been an even more dramatic moment in the world of Muslim-Christian relations? If a contingent of bishops, or perhaps Baptist preachers, were invited to the Masjid al-Haram to hold a Christian service in that facility.”

    Great. But don’t shy away. Muslims kill kafirs and are driving them out of land they have occupied before Mohammed (PBUH).

    I do think you are overly hard on the poor christians. They are losing ground to nihilism and think that by compromising they will keep the congregations together. Baptists or fundy’s, I would think, would be the last be sucker punched by trojan horse muslims.

  2. They are losing ground to nihilism and think that by compromising they will keep the congregations together.

    That’s probably an accurate assessment of their logic. Though at some point one would think the results would be subject to sober evaluation. And perhaps they have.

    How have the liberalized congregations fared in maintaining or growing their flocks? Does anyone have a sense of this? The Protestant mega-churches seem to be doing well. Though I don’t know what doctrine they support or whether it can even be generalized in that category.

    • I think the mega-churches and fundamentalism are a response to growing nihilism in post WW II. Before, most christians would have been part pagan, like the cardinals who commissioned renaissance art. Even lower class protestants in the USA had no problem with stained glass windows depicting saints and christ. Andy Warhol, a slovakian catholic, it turns out, made more christian images than any other 20th century artist. The curatoriat hides them.

    • “They are losing ground to nihilism and think that by compromising they will keep the congregations together.”

      I think this is exactly what many Churches are doing. Except the Orthodox Church. (I am not sure about Catholics).

      Here, our Church attendance numbers are still quite strong, (not 100% sure about in the cities here, but I have heared less people attend Church there).

      The Orthodox Church has refused to compromise it’s stance on the most important issues, (some changes with contraception and divorce).
      Other wise, the Orthodox Church has remained strong, refusing to bend to accomodate contemporary “norms”. I am happy about it, because if you can not rely on the Church as the pillar of morality, on what can you rely? Church is not there just to make people feel comfortable, sometimes the rules/Law of the Church can make us quite not comfortable in today’s fallen age, but the Law serves a purpose.
      When it is changed and manipulated, it is sad, bad for society, bad for Christians because we do not have correct direction.

      Of course, liberalised Churches are changing in order to maintain their congregations. I am not sure of other countries, but it does not seem to be working out too well for them, in Europe. For example, two winters a go I went to Wales to visit my sister and brother in law, and they attend a protestant Church as it was the Church of my brother in law. The congregation was in the majority older people, age 70 and up, and in the majority, female. There were probably about 30 people in the congregation (many empty pews).
      I was speak to the Priest after the service, and we had a long conversation about topic of un married couples and the young people in the area. I asked if there was much un married cohabitation, to which I used the term, “living in sin”. And the Priest’s reaction made me feel surprised, because he laughed a little. And he said to me, if the Church were strict about couples living in sin before marriage, the few young people who come to Church would probably not come, and he also said something, about the number of weddings would also probably decrease.

      Of course, I understood his logic, but I was also surprised, that these were words of a Priest. because even though he objectivetly knew it wrong, he waivered this in order to not upset people.
      Contrast this, to the Orthodox Church. A close friend of my godbrothers had been cohabitating with a young eastern european woman. He wanted to marry her, so he took her to the Priests here, and after the woman come to see me, and was crying uncontrolably, she said the Priests had basicaly made her to feel like a evil temptress, and that before they would permit them to marry, she must go to the house of his parents and “reflect” on her sin of tempting a man.
      I was very upset by that, because I felt BOTH should have been told the same thing, and allowed to marry as soon as is possible. I felt she took all the blame. BUT, at least the Church are doing their job, maybe a little too much, in that situation, but they not take the stance of the protestant Church and laugh it off.
      Over all, the Orthodox Church is still respected by the majority in Orthodox countries, (even if not for religious reasons, but traditional reasons), where as the liberalised Churches are empty pews. So in my opinion, it is not working.

      • One more thing – I think the liberalised Churches are too “emotional”, and lacking logic and structure. Of course, it is beautiful to go and “feel” good on Sunday at Church. But when you come away, and you know you can do what you wish, and go back again next Sunday and just be told you are forgiven, so feel good, you have no structure for how to live a moral life.

      • Thanks for the comments, Aggy. I agree about the transition to religious “feels.” And I imagine this is a prominent driver of the American mega-church phenomenon. People are seeking spiritual analgesic rather than guidance (and even sometimes necessary reprimand).

        They are, of course, two wholly different things. And the extent to which a church has oriented itself to the former is precisely the extent to which it has abandoned its original mission.

  3. This actually sets a precedent for the National Cathedral to be converted into a mosque.

    After the caliph Umar I conquered Jerusalem in the 7th century, the Patriarch Sophronius of Jerusalem offered to let him use the space of the Church of the Resurrection/Holy Sepulcher to say his appointed Muslim prayers. Umar refused because he knew such an act could be used as a justification for converting the church into a mosque.

    A mosque was eventually built a few centuries later in the place where Umar prayed on the day the patriarch surrendered the city to him. It stands there to this day.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque_of_Omar_(Jerusalem)

    • That’s really a good point. In India there are endless battles between Hindus and Muslims because muzzies built mosques on the sites of hindu temples and the hindus want their temples back.

      The same in southern Thailand with Buddhists.

      Only western euros try to absorb Islam, and other races. Random particle meets allah and blood.

  4. It would be Episcopalians, too. I hang my head in shame. And yes, Agapoula, your understanding of the doctrine of turning the other cheek is exactly right. We are certainly not to turn the other cheek to heresy and injustice. Christ certainly didn’t.

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